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to get a deal done so that i don't have to keep boring people with this term fiscal cliff? >> right. to really get the deal done right you need about 4 troll trillion to get us back on track. that means pro-growth tax reform, entitlement reform and better control of savings of the proposals at this point are not at that level. they're more $2.5 trillion range. we're very anxious to see what the president will put forward in terms of savings and reform. adam: in roughly four days can all of you in washington get this deal done? or is it going to be some kind of a patch with some kind of delay and than we'll deal with the new congress deals with it? >> well, adam i think you're kind of on it there. it would be great if we can get it done. if not let's at least get the framework to set it up and finish it off right away. either way we have to get a deal done before congress gets adjourned or get a deal done in the new congress. there is enough proposals put forward. get the deal we need to get things on track. adam: we should point out i think senator scott brown out of massachusetts l
about this fiscal cliff. right? so you laugh, right. >> i'm not laughing but if you take a dollar out of every -- that's a tax. >> i understand. i would rather self impose a tax than be forced to do something. therefore you're going to want to do it. for me, it's muscle memory. once you try it, you'll feel a tremendous patriotism and it will be -- >> did you hear that lieutenant colonel representative say we don't have a tax problem, we don't have a revenue problem, it's a spending problem? this doesn't address the problem in washington. that's the problem. >> again, once we band together, companies and citizens, we're listen, we need additional receipts, period. that's a known. it's going to happen for a period of time through -- >> you're a business guy. we're run out of time.j3 if you take in money but spend more, you're still taking in more money every year. you have to worry about the spending side, not revenue. >> the good faith program i started is going to force our elected officials to do something. we'll hit it at top. they hit it at the bottom. we'll meet in the middle and
for us to go over the fiscal cliff and then taxes will rise, right, but then congress will reconvene on january 3rd and vote to cut taxes. is that appliable solution in your mind? >> it kind of it, pretty much what i feel will happen. they have a little bit of wiggle room. the majority of this is not going to be felt until 2014 for the majority of the income tax rise so that causes congress to force them to make a deal knowing that we actually are operating under a higher tax rate right now, even though americans won't feel it, so it's almost like an additional leverage for those who actually want to make a deal and get something done. i just want somebody, like starbucks, we all need to come together. >> and quit kicking the can down the road, darn it. >> exactly. >> ryan thank you for being with us this morning. >> thank you. >> ryan has been with us all week tackling the fiscal effects on your pocketbook. tomorrow, what the fiscal cliff means for your retirement. >>> from the strange case of the technology pioneer john mcafee on the run to so many tragic shootings, we have the top
're going over the cliff. it's hard to tell. the expectation, even if we go over the fiscal cliff. right now, congress is still looking at trying to resolve this here in the next few days. so it's not as if we go over the cliff and stay there. there would be time to resolve the issue. that being said, we saw a whirlwind of negotiating on capitol hill. and right now, after things sort of didn't work out between mitch mcconnle and harry reid, the top republican and top democrat in the senate, they have shifted between mitch mcconnell and vice president joe biden. that's where all of the action is right now. keeping the speaker of the house john boehner abreast of what's going on. keeping harry reid abreast of what's going on and keeping president obama abreast of what's going on. we heard from senator reid yesterday that they are very far apart. not just talking on the threshold, initially president obama said $250 mi,000. there is talk to bumping that to $400,000. republicans want to know how we pay for it. there are farm subsidies, the doc fix. and spending cuts. so there is a lot to be reso
now not serving the people in the best fashion. we need the fiscal cliff resolved right away. this uncertainty causes great harm to the country, and we need very aggressive plans to reformulate our budget so that we don't have to have this uncertainty hanging over us so freakedly. you know, right now, american factories have a 20% price differential with competitors all through the the world. we need our system to be more competitive so we can grow. if we raise taxes on the job creators, on the factory owners, what happens is we'll be less competitive. the 20% will grow. we'll have less factories built here in america. it's very important that washington starts working out deals right away so that the fiscal cliff can be history, and we can focus on building factories, higher people, growing. dagen: well, they are not listening to you, drew. i hate to break it to you. in the interim, your company makes wire baskets and does sheet metal fabrication. based on what you see, how much of your own customers pulled back? have you seen layoffs? have you seen spending cuts ahead of th
does not reach the agreement on the fiscal cliff. right now there are still negotiations that are going on. they are being led by the vice president, vice president biden and senator minority leader mitch mcconnell. sources say that they are making some progress, but even if a deal is reached, no guarantee it's going to pass. listen to what one democratic senator, tom harkin, said on on the senate floor just earlier this morning. >> if we're going to have some kind of a deal, the deal must be one that really does favor the middle class, the real middle class, those making 30, 50, 60, $7,000 a year. that's the real middle class in america. as i see this thing developing, quite frankly as i've said before no deal is better than a bad deal, and this looks like a very bad deal the way it's shaping up. >> we want to bring in dana bash on capitol hill. when you think about it, both sides are not happy with what's taking place, at least what they're talking about. i know you have some new information on at least what the republicans are suggesting when it comes to those massive spending cuts,
the markets overall going up. but right now make no mistake about it, the fiscal cliff doubts in getting to january 1 without some kind of even a patchwork deal is what's driving the markets right now in negative territory. >> as we know, it's not a cliff, it's really a slope or series of steps as you're falling down them should a deal not come to pass here. is the drop that we've seen so far after plan b's failure, will we see yet more of the market reacting, a slow degradation of market performance? >> that depends on essentially if, for instance, a week from monday right now we're sitting here and it's almost a certainty that we're going to go over the cliff. i would argue that we could get more back to a cliff rather than slope analogy because it comes down to how swiftly does the market react in a negative way and how swiftly is the fallout on the overall u.s. economy. for example, we're getting reports from around the country that, number one, retailers have lowered their forecast on what the christmas shopping season is going to look like. we're hearing that one of our reporters w
, right now senate leaders scrambling to find common ground to avoid going over that fiscal cliff. got less than three days to go now, folks. at the same time in his weekly address today, the president says he's preparing a plan of action if no deal is reached. >> if an agreement isn't reached on time, then i'll urge the senate to hold an up or down vote on a basic package that protects the middle class from an income tax hike, extends vital unemployment insurance for americans looking for a job, and lays the ground work for future progress on more economic growth and deficit reduction. >> republicans say they want a deal as well, but they highlighted their biggest sticking points today in their weekly address. listen now to missouri senator roy blount. >> senate democrats have spent months drawing partisan lines in the sand. the president's proposal to raise tax on the top 2% of americans won't even pay one-third of the annual interest that's now owed on this massive $16 trillion debt. in fact, the president's tax hike would only fund the government for eight days. >> the senate is se
, right? how would the fiscal cliff, if we went over, affect gold, do you think? >> i think in the long run, gold will do worse if people start to think that interest rates rise. if dwrur going to park your safe money somewhere else, gold is a negative cash flow asset. >> and why wouldn't gold go up if we were going over the cliff? >> it would. in other words, if we do go over the cliff, you would expect gold to do better. >> and the stock market is. and the stock market hasn't done that badly at all. we're at 15% total return on the year. so if you just listen to the news, you would think we might be down but really, we had a very good year. are you going to be able to introduce this guy, andrew? he has more vowels in his last name than consonants. >> let's go to the futures pits where bob iaccino is standing together. >> would you say chee-no, bob? >> would you like it in english or italian? >> iaccino. with that singing. >> wa part of italy, do you know? >> cosanza is the town. it's the foot of the boot. >> not a bad part of italy. >> no, there's really not. >> bob, help us here. >>
of urgency if we fail to avoid the fiscal cliff, go over it and the markets react badly to it. right now people want us to come together in a bipartisan way. the absolute has to be bipartisan in the house. we've seen that in the last week. not even plan b, which is an unreasonable alternative to the too,000 threshold was able to garner a majority in the house of representatives. the speaker can't sell it to his own party, so i think he has to craft a bipartisan solution one way or the other, put aside the politics here. the nation's economic will suffer. >> should it come from the senate or from the house? >> i don't think it matters where it originates, but the point is the senate has already passed a bill that represents a reasonable compromise. extend the 250 -- the tax cuts for all incomes up to $250,000, and everybody would benefit on that first $250,000 of income. that it not only protects the middle class against huge tax increases on january 1, but also benefits many americans making more than 1250,000, because they will see the tax cut extended on their first $250,000 in income.
right, a last-ditch meeting to avoid that fiscal cliff it appears has just wrapped up at that time white house. president obama called congressional leaders to the white house. the hope was he could hash out the framework for a possible deal. danielle nottingham joins us with the latest. okay, did they get it done, danielle? >> reporter: derek, we're just not sure what happened. all four leaders left the white house without speaking to the media. we can only assume that means this wasn't a productive meeting. top congress impressional leaders left the white house after a last-ditch fiscal k cliff meeting with president obama. the closed door meeting was an attempt to avoid the automatic tax headaches and spending cuts set to king at the start of the new year. with just three days to go republicans and democrats are still blaming each other. >> i want to thank all of you for being here to call upon the republicans not to drop the ball on the middle class. >> reporter: there was a new year's eve style rally saying the fiscal cliff ball is in the republicans court. >> it's republicans who a
rally next year no matter what happens with the fiscal cliff. and we will also be told what stocks he thinks are undervalued right now. let's start with larry. we're glad we picked up from the 150 point loss. i'm glad about that. looks like there won't be a santa claus rally this year. >> no, it doesn't look like it. we saw some pretty big down drafts today and earlier in the week. that's not what traders expect when we get into the last couple weeks of december. we usually have low volume rallies. we have done opposite. high volume drops in the market. today was a good example. recovered quite a bit but those points in the the chart have been made. the traders look at that and see the markets keep making lower lows and that makes them want to sell into the market and not buy it. shibani: david, i want to get your thoughts, you know, despite what's going on in and around the beltway, the gridlock that exists, you're still a believer in these markets. you believe in the markets forging ahead. tell me why you're so optimistic considering the swings we saw in just today's trading day alo
tonight. so we are going over the fiscal cliff, isn't that right? >> reporter: technically, that's absolutely right, you're right. because to not go over the cliff, both houses of congress will have to pass something to avert that, and the president will have to sign it. so that is true. and that is why, as i said, politically, there aren't a lot of -- there are some people who aren't that upset about it, because it kind of makes the medicine go down a little bit easier when they vote on these cuts. having said that, we've heard from democrats in particular, for weeks now, that, you know, to sort of take a deep breath, that yes, it is called the fiscal cliff, but it is more of a slope, and particularly advantageous to members of congress who haven't got be their work done that january 1st is a federal holiday. so nothing is going to happen and there aren't going to be any real-world effects, especially when we're talking about the thing that really matters the most to a lot of people around here, just how the market is reacting. we saw the market go up today at news, seemingly at
. >> with that perspective, how did the country get to the situation that we are in right now, not just the fiscal cliff but the debate over the deficit and the debt that is behind this? >> well, if you go back to 2001 and thereafter, the cost of the war was not included in the budget except the military and the defense budget. but the additional costs were not reflected in the budget. there were always supplementals. so they didn't show as a deficit. a vendor ackley to the debt. so while the budgets were reasonable in that period of time, the actual spending didn't show in the budget and people didn't pay as much attention to the debt as they do today because it kept mounting and so we borrowed to pay for the war and in fact we didn't ask people to make sacrifices financially. >> there is a difference between borrowing in the future, paying for work and paying back words, we are having to pay right now. people might have felt differently if they had felt the pinch right at that time. we would have asked different questions and were asked, and i think that is one of the reasons we got where we are. and
somebody's having a laugh out there about this fiscal cliff business. >>> all right. they're going to do it again. anderson cooper and comedienne kathy griffin, teaming up to usher in the new year from times square. let's say thing got weird last night on "the situation room" when the two were promoting their new year's eve special. look at this. >> somebody tells me, and i'm not sure this is true, somebody tells me that you're obsessed with wolf blitzer. and yet every year it's me talking to you guys because i'm doing blitzer's show. i'm wondering, is that -- do you take it personally, do you think there's something to this? >> i have -- >> i think wolf is wise to stay away from kathy griffin because i once -- i don't know if you know this story, cathy -- candy. i lent -- kathy griffin one asked to come to my house in long island. and like a nice guy, i sent her a key because she wanted to go there a day in advance. and that night -- >> to clean up the place. >> no, first of all -- she arrived, she was terribly disappointed. i think she thought it would be like a house in downtown abbey
on with the fiscal cliff. >> you know, jim, i was watching our futures this morning. right now, it looks like the dow would open down about 65 or 70 points. that's the good news, that the market would shrug this off that there will be a deal reached either later today or in the next few days. we've been expecting all along that it would take a big reaction in the markets to get any serious action in washington. if they're not seeing that, that may make it less likely for them to reach any sort of a grand deal. in fact, a grand deal at this point is probably off the table. what does that mean for the next three to six months for the u.s. markets? >> yeah. waiting to come on the show, i was looking at a chart of the various u.s. markets going back since before the election. and which have sort of gone through some phases. in a way, the markets have sort of factored in from the first immediate period following the election a big deal to resolve the situation in the u.s. is not going to happen. the lying fiscal challenges in the u.s. are not going to be resolved anytime soon. that would be a big surprise
the fiscal cliff. right now, the leaders of the house and senate are sitting down with president obama in a search for an 11th hour deal to prevent severe tax hikes and spending cuts from automatically kicking in with the new year. cnn's chief white house correspondent jessica yellin is getting new details. jess can ka, what are you hearing about that meeting? >> reporter: candy, the president is going to explain or reiterate the position he took on friday, that he would like a plan that extends tax rates for people who make $250,000 and below but raises them for those who make more than that. that it extends unemployment benefits for americans. and if the president, i'm told will say if he does not get an agreement to that plan, he will ask the other leaders what they can agree to, what what they would like instead. if they cannot come up with a proposal that will pass the house and the senate, will ask for a vote on his measure. but that meeting, candy, is still going on. congre congressional leaders arrived at the white house for a last-ditch meeting just days before a new year's de
with this fiscal cliff. >> the president did say deja vu all over again. if corker is right, we are going to say some of the same machinations we've seen before. if it doesn't happen, the president wants that up or down vote on his plan. >> remember night, monday night is new year's eve when it all could go bad. >> and happy new year to you. >> thank you, gary. >>> and economists are warning that going over that fiscal cliff could pull us all back into recession. congress impressional democrats attended a new year's eve style rally saying the fiscal cliff ball is in the republican court. surae chinn is on capitol hill. >> i'm urging congress to take action, stop playing games, and let's move on. >> reporter: frustration has boiled over for bob packer, a small business owner. >> i'm disappointed and angry. if they were my representeddives, i'd certainly vote them out of office. >> on tie mitchell of brokering a deal is waning. >> we do have a chance, an outside chance to get this done. >> we need two words. presidential leadership, on not just taxing rich people. >> reporter: some democratic lawm
.c. and some starbucks in washington, d.c. deciding to jump right into this whole fiscal cliff debate. coffee baristas are -- they've been told to write on coffee cups to say "come together." so they're writing this handwritten message saying come together as a way of encouraging politicians to come together and get this fiscal cliff cliff thing done. no word yet on when people get extra lattes, where they can write get your lazy ass off vacation. >> willis likes that a lot more. >> i womdzer if there's enough room. >> if you're looking for love, you better have a good credit score. take a look at this. ♪ >> okay, yeah. we're not going to say we're going after those guys, but it's the credit score guys. "the new york times" is reporting that credit scores is huge and that could be at the top of the list. they interviewed people across the u.s., and a newspaper discovered a low credit score is a deal breaker in search of love. so if you don't have your act together, take care of that and maybe you'll find love. >> can you imagine, hi, how are you? what is your credit score? >> 420. no, mine
. and we will be following the fiscal cliff talks tomorrow. and clayton, you'll be hear, right? >> clayton: i will. so send us any of your questions as well and your thoughts. our -- go to our web site for the after the show show. >> gretchen: happy new year, everybody. gregg: fox news alert. powerful winter storm bringing deadly weather. >> oh, wow. that is a tornado. jesus, look at that tornado. it is like two tornados. it is two funnels on the frowned. oh, lord. look at there. wow! look at that. gregg: the storm system that produced those tornados in parts of the south not done yet. now posing a potentially major roadblock for countless holiday travelers. hello, i'm gregg jarrett in for bill hemmer. >> i'm patti ann browne in for martha maccallum patti ann: local crews said there is only one thing that could have accused the damage. >> one thing they saw damage indicative of tornado damage. we had homes 90% destroyed. that doesn't happen with straight line winds. >> you have a lot of damage. people hurt and i went out with the skid steer. we rounded up equipment. we started opening the
are glad you are here. right now, negotiations are under way to avoid the fiscal cliff. leaders are scrambling for a last minute deal. we have 35 hours and counting. here is more of president obama talking about the overall situation. >> what congress needs to do is to prevent taxes from going up for the vast majority of americans. and this was a major topic of discussion throughout the campaign. what i said was that we should keep taxes where they were for 98% of americans, 97% of small businesses. but, if we are serious about deficit reduction, make sure the wealthy are paying more and combine it with spending cuts and put the economy on a long term trajectory of growth. over the next 48 hours, my hope is people recognize that regardless of partisan differences, our priority has to be to make sure taxes on middle class families do not go up. that would hurt our economy badly. at a certain point, it is very important for republicans in congress to say we understand we are not going to get 100%. we are willing to compromise in a serious way to solve problems. >> give you the liv
's all because of the worries about the fiscal cliff. suzanne. >> all right. let's just listen in, and i'll bring you back for a bit. ♪ >> all right. there you go. allison, i want to bring you back for a couple quick questions here. we know the stocks are down, fiscal cliff. talk about what we think that means for us if we end up going over the fiscal cliff and you're looking at a lot of tax hikes as well as spending cuts. >> yeah. you have to believe if we go over the cliff that some sort of deal will happen up. if not within the first couple days of year, maybe the first couple weeks. what may happen is an impact right away to your paychecks in the early weeks of the new year. here is an idea of what we're in for anyway. we're going to see a lot of tax changes. payroll tax holiday. that would expire, and that means that the amount taken out of your paycheck would go from 4.2% to 6.2%, so that means if you're making $50,000 a year, it means $83 a month comes out of your paycheck. over the cliff it means you have a delay in tax refunds for the 2012 returns and that's because there's ye
whitfield. here are the top stories we are following right now. >>> that fiscal cliff. we are at the very edge. senate leaders are working through the weekend trying to reach a deal before the deadline. today president obama called on lawmakers to meet their deadlines and responsibilities and forge a compromise to avoid tax hike and spending cuts from taking effect. lisa desjardins is live on capitol hill. what's going on right now? >> reporter: right now it's all behind closed doors, martin. what we just have learned in the last hour, in fact, what reporters have seen here, a surprise. house speaker john boehner was here at the capitol. we're still trying to sort out exactly why he was here, but he wasn't here for very long, it seems. he left in the last hour. also, we were able to see some of senator mcconnell's staffers. i was able to speak to one of them coming in and out of these kind of closed-door planning meetings. he said they've been here since 9:00 a.m. they plan to work all day and we may see his boss, senator mcconnell, later today. that shows us kind of where things stand. i
a way we avert the fiscal cliff at this point with how slow the senate operates, no plan right now, house is nowhere, and it's almost january. >> highway to the danger zone, jake sherman, politico, thank you so much for joining us, we appreciate it. >>> developing news on president george h.w. bush's health. this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. we've all had those moments. when you lost the thing you can't believe you lost. when what you just bought, just broke. or when you have a little trouble a long way from home... as an american express cardmember you can expect some help. but what you might not expect, is you can get all this with a prepaid card. spends like cash. feels like membership. >>> and developing news on a story we've been following here for days args spokesman for former president george h.w. bush is telling nbc news doctors have seen a, quote, slight improvement in his condition. this morning, joining me from houston on the latest on the 41st president's health. little bit of good news, charles. >> reporter: certainly is, luke, i spoke with a spokesman
that the fiscal cliff won't hit the economy right away. tell actually give lawmakers more time to continue negotiating. but how long can our economy take the uncertainty? >> it is not just uncertainty. we have had that factored in. the reality is that unless the president suspends the increase in payroll taxes that are going to take place, not just social security, but withholding for income tax, while they continue to negotiate, we have gone off the cliff. in the month of january, people will live off their credit cards, but they can only do that so long. come february and march, the higher taxes will require adjustments in the spending habits of folk who is make between $25,000 and $100,000 a year. i would point out that this is no reason to give the president everything he wants and pass that bill that he proposes because if the republicans do that, they lose all their leverage. i have news for most people. if we dont curb our spending, everybody's going to have to pay the higher taxes in the end because things are flying out of ceil. >> no one's talking about spending cuts right now t.
the the fiscal cliff. everyone's taxes as of right now set to go up january 1st. do we have the countdown clock up? we'll get that up later, but here is where congressional leaders and the president stand on the fiscal cliff, listen. >> but whatever we come up with is going to be imperfect, some people are going to like it, some people like it less, but that's where we are and i feel confident that we have an obligation to do the best we can. >> a good meeting down to the white house. we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader and myself, and the white house in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation that i can make to my conference and the majority leader can make hess to his conference and we'll be working hard to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours and so i'm hopeful and optimistic. >> i'm modestly optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. nobody can get 100% of what they want. let's make sure that middle class families and the american economy and in fact the world economy aren't adversely impacted because people can't do their jo
the fiscal cliff, right? come back to work and let a majority in the house, republicans and democrats, work their will. let democracy work to protect the middle class. it is essential we pass the extension of unemployment insurance. that is why the president has been very clear on that since day one that it should be a part of any plan. these are people who are out of work through no fault of their own. they are looking for jobs in what is still a tough economy and providing unemployment benefits provide more security for those americans and their families, but it is good for everyone else also. those people have a little bit more money in their pockets to spend on goods and services to support their family which is good for everyone else. when they are spending money, businesses can sell more goods and services and we have some small business representatives here who know very well that the more people have money in their pockets, the more customers they have with money, the more they can sell their goods and services, and the better off the country will be. let's get back to work. allow t
and the fiscal cliff. it's not looking too good right now when it comes to the u.s. economy. >> geithner told congressional leaders that his department is using some accounting measures basically a fancy way of saying they're going to try to free up some cash to hold off, temporarily, this fiscal cliff. but it's still not looking good. >> i don't know about you at home, but kicking the can down the road, this has been happening over and over again. somebody has to make some decisions here. >> it's like in this business, they give you a deadline and you have to hit the deadline. there's no coming in and saying take another ten minutes. it don't work that way in real life. there are americans out there saying, get off your couches, get back to washington, and get the deal done. >> sometimes it's not pretty you when you have to rush, but, hey, get it done. >>> still on the economy now, new signs of a turn around in the real estate market. for the first time since 2006, average housing prices may end the year on an upward trend. good news there for the economy. real estate prices in 20 cities wer
. speaking right. exactly. liz: more on the fiscal cliff. let's bring in peter. with us is former clinton advisor doug shoen. we have basically mr. boehner saying, look, you senate, you have not come up with anything. >> i think, unfortunately, we will probably get around it. i think it is a worse outcome to avoid the cliff then to go over it. i think we should broaden the discussion and look at what is going on around the world. look at japan and europe. the japanese government is the glaring war on japanese citizens. it will create inflation. if the japanese citizens start to dump their bonds, they have been a bigger part then japan recently. that is a big problem for us. their euro has been quietly depreciating. if that goes out, that is a much bigger fiscal cliff. if the buyers of treasuries become sellers. liz: there are a lot of "if" in your discussion. the bond markets are still pretty -- nothing from the bottom vigilantes yet. you were a clinton advisor. you saw in the mid- 90s bond yields really spike higher. that is the issue. if we see the economy healing, bond yields could go
right off the fiscal cliff. take a live look at the white house where president obama called the top house and senate leaders from both parties to try and hammer out a deal avoiding the tax hikes and crippling spending cuts. remember analysts say falling off the fiscal cliff could drive the u.s. into another recession. more than a month has passed since the last time they got together. the obama administration called that mid another meeting constructive but there has been little to no progress. today lawmakers on both sides of the aisle tried to strike an optimistic tone. >> millions of americans are out there struggling and certainly they deserve a congress that will avoid going over the fiscal cliff, which is why the president has been working hard to bring leaders together. >> we can't continue to kick the can down the road with half measures. i think the market will respond in a permanent and negative way to our inaction. >> the chairman of the senate finance committee says it comes down to this meeting adding i wish them luck. it would be a great new year's present for the coun
is afraid of is that the bill will actually pass and then we would avoid going over the fiscal cliff, right? come back to work and let a majority in the house, republicans and democrats, work their will. let democracy work to protect the middle class. it is essential we pass the extension of unemployment insurance. that is why the president has been very clear on that since day one that it should be a part of any plan. these are people who are out of work through no fault of their own. they are looking for jobs in what is still a tough economy and providing unemployment benefits provide more security for those americans and their families, but it is good for everyone else also. those people have a little bit more money in their pockets to spend on goods and services to support their family which is good for everyone else. when they are spending money, businesses can sell more goods and services and we have some small business representatives here who know very well that the more people have money in their pockets, the more customers they have with money, the more they can sell their goods a
. the fiscal cliff might seem extremely large right now. we look at the more long-term view, a small blip on the overall screen. we'll see a lot of volatility but can you deal with the volatility and if it's causing to you lose sleep it might have an indication you might want to make some changes. >> it's hard not to have a knee-jerk reaction. before we get to that talk about tax deferred accounts. how will the fiscal cliff affect them. >> this is the beautiful part about this is that the biggest concern individuals are having that we've worked with and talking to, what is going to happen with my taxes? what is going to happen with my dividends taxes, capital gains? so the best part about it, if you're dealing with non-qualified accounts you might have to be concerned about that but qualified accounts or tax deferred accounts such as your 401(k)s and individual retirement accounts, roth and traditional, these accounts are tax deferred and many 509 plans, college savings plans, different types of concept are tax deferred and some are tax free such as 529 so maximize this and eliminates the
? this is kind of very structural pressures. >> that's right and that's what underlies the fiscal cliff. they're looking out beyond 2020, all these people retiring, providing defense costs more and more because of less efficiencies in government stuff so the calculus isn't good. it isn't good for us or anyone but there are things to do. there are a lot of things we can do better, more private infrastructure spending, improving our education system, making entitlement systems, means tested. >> shifting federal spending from consumption to investment as for the future. >> all right, ken thanks very much, and we'll be leaning on you for guidance over the course of the next few days. >>> who doesn't want a little eva longoria in her life. she's helping fellow latinas get a college education. are easy with free pickup from the u.s. postal service. we'll even drop off boxes if you need them. visit usps.com pay, print, and have it picked up for free. any time of year. ♪ nice sweater. thank you. ♪ >>> yesterday we brought you the shirtless matthew mcconaughey. today something the men at the desk
over here. the way to avoid the fiscal cliff has been right in the face of the republican leaders, both mcconnell and baron --, boehner for days and days and days going into weeks and months and it's the only option that is a viable escape route. that's the senate-passed bill. it wouldn't hard to pass, i've talked about that at some length. every democrat in the house would vote for it, a handful of republicans would vote for it. that's all that would be nominee needed. but, mr. president, grover norquist is standing in the way of this. not the rich people. but grover norquist. the man who says what the republicans can do. so i say to the speaker, take the escape hatch that we've left you. put the economic fate of the nation heafd your own fate as speaker of the house. millions of middle-class families are nervously watching and counting down the moments until their taxes go up. nothing can move forward in regards to our budget crisis unless speaker boehner and leader mcconnell are willing to participate in coming up with a bipartisan plan. speaker boehner is unwilling to negotiate, we
the latest gallup information on what americans are feeling right now, gang. about the fears of the fiscal cliff. deal likely at 50%, deal not likely at 48%. and this is gone down continually as we have seen, lynn, over several days, whether more optimism before the christmas holiday and continues to evaporate the closer to the cliff but talking about what the president can do coming back, can it about a small stop gap measure to save people after the 1st? >> it could be and i've always thought that the they know if they don't at least do a stop gap which is in their power, therefore, they would probably do it. it means that the december deadline, december 31 deadline that's looming may not really be the deadline. i think it's more like january 3rd, noon, when the new congress is sworn in. that's when they have to do their math to see where do they have -- if there's any hope of a deal, a democratic deal, where you need 20, 30 min votes or true bipartisan deal and no one thinks will happen. now people are just working some numbers to see which would work best if you don't get anything by t
. >> you can get the latest on efforts to reach a fiscal cliff steel throughout the day. wjla.com. we will have full coverage at 5:00. happening right now, developing news out of new york. secretary of state hillary clinton is in the hospital this afternoon. she is big news for blood clots. t-fal in her home earlier this month and suffered a concussion. during a follow-up exam, doctors discovered the blood clot. if she was committed to new york presbyterian hospital testicles. doctors are treating her with a blood thinner. the treatment suggests that mrs. clinton will be ok. >> if you have a bleeding in your head, you would not put someone on anti-coagulant for treatment. they said they expect her to be in the hospital 48 hours. >> this is the second time mrs. clinton has suffered a blood clot. in 198898 she was hospitalized for blood clots behind her knee. the philadelphia eagles have fired their head coach andy reed. the owner says it's time for them to move in a new direction. he was not the only one fire today. they let go of smith. the -- the bears got lovie smith. more on that
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away from the fiscal cliff negotiations? >> there seems to be some politics behind this announcement right now as we hit the ceiling. as you make the calculations, it seemed to me as if they were only going to hit the ceiling in february or march next year anyway. the fact that he comes out and says actually we're shutting the ceiling now and i have to make all these adjustments so we hit only in february seems to me that there is a bit of politics going on already and trying to increase the pressure on the republicans to agree at the year end. >> i wonder how much is priced into the markets. despite the fact that we're going partially over the cliff or doing the coyote/roadrunner thing in the air, i'm just not sure that we are necessarily going to see a huge move. among other things, it seems the market is tired of the political wrangling'. >> indeed. i think what is priced in is that this is priced in at a slope. it's something that's going accumulate over the year and is going to hit the gdp if it really hits over the course of the whole year, not all in january. it's not going to
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in our fiscal cliff discussions is a lot of craziness, right? when money is out there and there is a limited amount of money you'll see a lot of weird things happen and you'll see that over a long period of time. this will not be the last headline you read about a municipality having to go through some sort of legal, you know, wrangling to try to get bond holders paid back or keep a pension going. that happens when you have a bad economy. and california is a terrible economy and the united states is right behind it. arthel: san diego figured it out. san jose figured it out. they restructured the pension payouts, why can't the other cities do that? >> that is a good yes question. and i think that's what it will come down to, who is running these organizations, why are they getting paid so much and who is making the decisions. at some point you'll see trustees come in and hopefully sounder minds. for right now you'll continue to hear this. even though san diego fixed theirs and san jose fixed theirs sometimes that is a little bit of -- we'll probably see that revis
, could we possibly be on the verge of a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff? you are looking live right now at the white house. that's where something big is going to be going on. just about seven hours from now, it will be the sight of a high stakes meeting with president obama and the leaders of congress. and to weigh in on this is doug, live in washington more details. >> good morning. they're going to be talking today and maybe that in and of itself is something of an achievement. issues will be on the table in that room in the white house as they all gather around and one of the items that's being discussed here in washington, believe it or not, is the price of milk. more on that in just a moment. but the president did, in fact, return early from his vacation in hawaii yesterday. he is coming back for this big meeting at the white house. we don't know if there is a new white house strategy here or if there is going to a new offer from the president, but many republicans are not terribly hopeful. >> any time you announce a meeting publicly in washington, it's usually for political theat
the fiscal cliff because that stuff happens automatically but the idea of a debt ceiling increase, they've told obama if you want a trillion dollars in higher debt and he needs that eight times in the next decade, you have to cut spending a trillion dollars. >> here, i'll ask you again. 0 i'm a republican congressman and i signed your tax pledge to not raise taxes. if someone says here's a bill that says if you sign this we will cut taxes for 98% of americans. how could you say no? my point is, the administration is winning the war of optics. if they played it out this way, do they not win? >> well, they've won the war of optics so far because everything's been done in camera. it's been done inside closed walls. if c-span and fox and -- were able to videotape the negotiations, the kind of thing we're learning now about how obama said i have no interesting in cutting spending, he's been lying for two months about his negotiationing position in the room. if people knew that, there would be serious unhappiness in his lack of seriousness with cutting spending. if the negotiations were here
. right now we have very well leverage in the debate over the fiscal cliff because that stuff happens automatically but the idea of a debt ceiling increase, they've told oba if you want a trillion dollar in higher debt and he needs that eight times in the next decade, you have to cut spending a trillion dollars. >> here, i'll ask you again. 0 i'm a republican congressman and i signed your tax pledge to not raise taxes. if someone says here's a bill that says if you sign this we will cut taxes for 98% of americans. how could youay no? my point is, the administration is winning the war of optics. if they played it out this way, do they not win? >> well, they've won the war of optics so far because everything's been done in camera. it's been done inside closed walls. if c-span and fox and -- were able to videotape the negotiations, the kind of thing we're learning nowbout how obama said i have no interesting in cutting spending, he's been lying for two mons about his negotiationing position in the room. if people knew that, there would be serious unhappiness in his lack of seriousne with
vacation for the hard reality of the fiscal cliff negotiations. the president called all four congressional leaders last night in an effort to reach a deal, but did that call fall on deaf ears? jared bernstein, former chief economist to vip biden, as well as a contributor. i want to start with the new statement from senator mitch mcconnell's office coming out says last night he called other lead serious. the leader is happy to review what the president has in mind, but to day date the majority has not put forward a plan. jared, is that good they're actually speaking, however far apart as it may sound, at least they're talking? >> it's a bit good. better to be talking than north. the unfortunate thing are the words they're saying. i don't hear much compromise or kind of conciliation in the statements we've heard thus far. i do hear a lot of theatrics, you go first, no you go first. it's strange to say the democrats haven't put forth any legislation on this, because in fact they have. in fact, a democratic majority in the senate passed a bill that's pretty similar to the compromise that the p
last-ditch effort to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. >> getting a little more optimistic today. there's sometimes darkest before the dawn. >> right now we are at a stalemate because we haven't been willing to -- democrats haven't been willing to consider the issue of spend. >> there's some signs of possible flexibility but first of all, it would be helpful if the house of representatives came back. >> like it was a harvard law review just to show who is the smartest person in the room. we don't need the smartest person in the room. we immediate somebody to say all right, america, we need to deal with revenues. that's the bad news. we immediate to deal with the medicare fiscal cliff or you are not going on get your medical bills paid. >> remembering an american original. >> iraqis are dumb muff to attack her going to pay a terrible price. >> nicknamed stormin' norman for his ledgendary temper. he died thursday due to complications from pneumonia. >>> it is a year comes to a close, we look back at the amr moments that left us starstruck and speechless in 2012. >>> good day. i'm l
republicans. and this is problematic obviously because in order to avoid the fiscal cliff, you would need to find some sort of deal that would make it through the senate and the house and that would need democratic and republican support. now, all eyes on the senate because they will reconvene on the 27th, thursday. and senate majority leader harry reid, it is up to him, really, to cobble together something that can get some of that support. right now the white house is still supporting a threshold of $250,000 back to their initial starting point for tax rates going up for those making more than that. but you can imagine, hala, that's going to be very hard for some republicans, maybe even some democrats to sign on to. >> right. and for just about a week ago, it was common to hear a deal will be hammered out. over the last several days we're hearing more and more that potentially this is a reality for americans in eight days' time. your sources in the administration, is there a real concern among some of the people you're speaking with that indeed this fiscal cliff will become a reality? >
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await the outcome of the fiscal cliff negotiations. on the positive side you won be seeing $8 a gallon for milk because congress gave a one year extension for the farm bill. those who love your 75 watt light bulbs stock up while supplies last. new federal laws prohibit them to be import order produced in 2013. the tribune company announced it's emerging from bankruptcy with new ownership and new board of directors and forbes has compiled a list of new york's resolution that successful people make and actually keep. among them plan vacations now. wake up to the essentials first, check e-mail second. support a cause. find your purpose and go for it. go for it. new year's day marks the 150th anniversary of emancipation proclamation. the document is once again on display. ron mott has details. >> reporter: showing its age the emancipation proclamation still draws attention. >> it's amazing to see abraham lincoln's signature. >> reporter: today the frail order consigned to history on january 1st, 1863 by abraham lincoln is again on public display. showtime just a few days every year. >> ver
'reilly. thanks for watching us. our top story tonight, the last ditch effort to avert the fiscal cliff. president obama met with congressional leaders for several hours at the white house today to try to hammer out a deal before taxes go up on more than 160 million americans. after the meeting, the president presented a new plan to avoid the cliff and said he was modestly optimistic. >> we had a constructive meeting today. senators reid and mcconnell are discussing a potential agreement where we can get a bipartisan bill out of the senate over into the house and done in a timely fashion so that we met the december 31st deadline. given how things have been working in this town we have to actually wait and see until it actually happens. the one thing that the american people should not have to wait and see is some sort of action. so if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders in the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor. and i have asked senator reid to do. this put a bill on the floor that makes sure that taxes on middle class families don't go up, that unemployment insurance is stil
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